Usenet servers of choice ?...

[boB]

Looks like my USENET server (Newscene) is going out of business soon.

Who do you like ? Besides Google Groups if that still even really
works.

Thanks,
boB

 

[Don Y]

On 1/28/2023 1:35 PM, boB wrote:

Looks like my USENET server (Newscene) is going out of business soon.

Who do you like ? Besides Google Groups if that still even really
works.

Eternal September and AIOE seem to be the popular \"free\" services.

If you\'re interested in *paying*, you may find those servers
eventually struggling to find enough paying customers to stay
afloat (in the presence of free alternatives).

Do you have any \"esoteric\" groups that might constrain the
server choices available?

 

[Phil Hobbs]

boB wrote:

Looks like my USENET server (Newscene) is going out of business soon.

Who do you like ? Besides Google Groups if that still even really
works.

Thanks,
boB

Supernews has about the best retention, AFACT. The groups I look at go
back to 2003ish. Download speed is meh.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 13:35:33 -0700, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote:

Looks like my USENET server (Newscene) is going out of business soon.

Who do you like ? Besides Google Groups if that still even really
works.

Thanks,
boB

Supernews seems good.

 

[Dean Hoffman]

On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:35:41 PM UTC-6, boB wrote:

Looks like my USENET server (Newscene) is going out of business soon.

Who do you like ? Besides Google Groups if that still even really
works.

Thanks,
boB

Google groups still works. Most of the groups I frequented in the past have just died out. No one has anything to say even if it\'s about weather. I used AIOE with Thunderbird as the reader in the past.
There was a segment on one of the morning talk shows a few days ago. Supposedly, kids are discovering the advantages of flip phones. Smart phones are being put away or turned on much less often.
Will they discover usenet again and leave Facebook behind?

 

[Joe Gwinn]

On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 14:17:35 -0800 (PST), Dean Hoffman
<deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:35:41 PM UTC-6, boB wrote:
Looks like my USENET server (Newscene) is going out of business soon.

Who do you like ? Besides Google Groups if that still even really
works.

Thanks,
boB

Google groups still works. Most of the groups I frequented in the past have just died out. No one has anything to say even if it\'s about weather. I used AIOE with Thunderbird as the reader in the past.

Google got a bit too grasping, and so Google Groups were mostly
abandoned. Most people went to groups.io.

Joe Gwinn

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 14:17:35 -0800 (PST), Dean Hoffman
<deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:35:41 PM UTC-6, boB wrote:
Looks like my USENET server (Newscene) is going out of business soon.

Who do you like ? Besides Google Groups if that still even really
works.

Thanks,
boB

Google groups still works. Most of the groups I frequented in the past have just died out. No one has anything to say even if it\'s about weather. I used AIOE with Thunderbird as the reader in the past.
There was a segment on one of the morning talk shows a few days ago. Supposedly, kids are discovering the advantages of flip phones. Smart phones are being put away or turned on much less often.
Will they discover usenet again and leave Facebook behind?

My smart phone is used like a POTS telephone (no texting, no email, no
games, no music) but it has a wonderful camera.

And the HP calculator emulator is handy sometimes.

 

[Don Y]

On 1/28/2023 3:17 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:

Google groups still works. Most of the groups I frequented in the past
have just died out. No one has anything to say even if it\'s about weather.

I used AIOE with Thunderbird as the reader in the past. There was a segment
on one of the morning talk shows a few days ago. Supposedly, kids are
discovering the advantages of flip phones. Smart phones are being put away
or turned on much less often. Will they discover usenet again and leave
Facebook behind?

I suspect they are just trying to be different (\"Hey, look at me!\").

Have they suddenly dropped their aversion to TALKING on the phone?
Given up on texting?

 

[boB]

On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 16:13:07 -0800, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 14:17:35 -0800 (PST), Dean Hoffman
deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:35:41 PM UTC-6, boB wrote:
Looks like my USENET server (Newscene) is going out of business soon.

Who do you like ? Besides Google Groups if that still even really
works.

Thanks,
boB

Google groups still works. Most of the groups I frequented in the past have just died out. No one has anything to say even if it\'s about weather. I used AIOE with Thunderbird as the reader in the past.
There was a segment on one of the morning talk shows a few days ago. Supposedly, kids are discovering the advantages of flip phones. Smart phones are being put away or turned on much less often.
Will they discover usenet again and leave Facebook behind?



My smart phone is used like a POTS telephone (no texting, no email, no
games, no music) but it has a wonderful camera.

And the HP calculator emulator is handy sometimes.

Thanks guys. Free is good too.

I wonder if I could set up my own small NNTP server and pick up groups
? I have no idea how usenet works in that way.

The only esoteric-ish group I might go to is a.b.e-books.magazines I
suppose.

I use the HP 48 calculatoor on my Android all the time !

boB

 

[Don Y]

On 1/28/2023 10:13 PM, boB wrote:

Thanks guys. Free is good too.

I wonder if I could set up my own small NNTP server and pick up groups
? I have no idea how usenet works in that way.

Sure! But, you will need to get a feed from someone.
Or, slurp the groups of interest to you from a \"regular\"
server (as a normal client)

The only esoteric-ish group I might go to is a.b.e-books.magazines I
suppose.

The only real concern is if you wanted access to a group that isn\'t
part of the big eight hierarchies.

> I use the HP 48 calculatoor on my Android all the time !

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2023-01-29, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote:

I wonder if I could set up my own small NNTP server and pick up groups
? I have no idea how usenet works in that way.

NNTP servers are pretty easy, especially if all your users are
well-behaved. The problem is gettign a news feed. this is not a
problem I\'ve tried hard to solve, opting instead to use something
like \"suck\" to convert a client subscription into a virtual feed.

--
Jasen.
pǝsɹǝʌǝɹ sʇɥƃᴉɹ ll∀

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Sat, 28 Jan 2023 13:35:33 -0700) it happened boB
<boB@K7IQ.com> wrote in <3l1bthp9j6bh5cumggnb3fju56pqtkm38o@4ax.com>:

Looks like my USENET server (Newscene) is going out of business soon.

Who do you like ? Besides Google Groups if that still even really
works.

Thanks,
boB

Recently moved to news.solani.org
You need to subscribe and get a password,
its a free service

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:51:35 AM UTC+11, Joe Gwinn wrote:

On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 14:17:35 -0800 (PST), Dean Hoffman <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:35:41 PM UTC-6, boB wrote:
Looks like my USENET server (Newscene) is going out of business soon.

Who do you like ? Besides Google Groups if that still even really
works.

Thanks,
boB

Google groups still works. Most of the groups I frequented in the past have just died out. No one has anything to say even if it\'s about weather. I used AIOE with Thunderbird as the reader in the past.

Google got a bit too grasping, and so Google Groups were mostly
abandoned. Most people went to groups.io.

Google groups works fine for me. As far as I know I don\'t pay anything to use the service.

I find it the easiest user interface to work with. You have to rely on the header information to find out where you are in the thread and some posters snip that - I check on eternal september if I feel the need to know (which doesn\'t happen often).

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Carlos E.R.]

On 2023-01-28 23:17, Dean Hoffman wrote:

On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:35:41 PM UTC-6, boB wrote:
Looks like my USENET server (Newscene) is going out of business soon.

Who do you like ? Besides Google Groups if that still even really
works.

Thanks,
boB

Google groups still works. Most of the groups I frequented in the past have just died out. No one has anything to say even if it\'s about weather. I used AIOE with Thunderbird as the reader in the past.
There was a segment on one of the morning talk shows a few days ago. Supposedly, kids are discovering the advantages of flip phones. Smart phones are being put away or turned on much less often.
Will they discover usenet again and leave Facebook behind?

They already left out Facebook long ago. Only old people use Facebook,
like their parents

--
Cheers, Carlos.

 

[Carlos E.R.]

On 2023-01-29 06:13, boB wrote:

On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 16:13:07 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

My smart phone is used like a POTS telephone (no texting, no email, no
games, no music) but it has a wonderful camera.

And the HP calculator emulator is handy sometimes.

Thanks guys. Free is good too.

I wonder if I could set up my own small NNTP server and pick up groups
? I have no idea how usenet works in that way.

If you are on Linux it is very easy to setup an nntp proxy server
(Leafnode).

--
Cheers, Carlos.

 

[Carlos E.R.]

On 2023-01-29 12:33, Anthony William Sloman wrote:

On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:51:35 AM UTC+11, Joe Gwinn wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 14:17:35 -0800 (PST), Dean Hoffman <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:35:41 PM UTC-6, boB wrote:
Looks like my USENET server (Newscene) is going out of business soon.

Who do you like ? Besides Google Groups if that still even really
works.

Thanks,
boB

Google groups still works. Most of the groups I frequented in the past have just died out. No one has anything to say even if it\'s about weather. I used AIOE with Thunderbird as the reader in the past.

Google got a bit too grasping, and so Google Groups were mostly
abandoned. Most people went to groups.io.

Google groups works fine for me. As far as I know I don\'t pay anything to use the service.

I find it the easiest user interface to work with. You have to rely on the header information to find out where you are in the thread and some posters snip that - I check on eternal september if I feel the need to know (which doesn\'t happen often).

Notice that there are users that filter out any post coming from Google
Groups.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Sun, 29 Jan 2023 13:31:24 +0100) it happened \"Carlos E.R.\"
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote in <sh5iajxsph.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>:

On 2023-01-29 06:13, boB wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 16:13:07 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:



My smart phone is used like a POTS telephone (no texting, no email, no
games, no music) but it has a wonderful camera.

And the HP calculator emulator is handy sometimes.

Thanks guys. Free is good too.

I wonder if I could set up my own small NNTP server and pick up groups
? I have no idea how usenet works in that way.

If you are on Linux it is very easy to setup an nntp proxy server
(Leafnode).

Long time ago I had the webserver and ftp server running at home,
doing that needs a fixed IP address.
I considered running a Usenet server, after all I wrote NewsFleX news reader and am still using it now:
http://panteltje.com/panteltje/newsflex/index.html
but maintaining a Usenet server is a LOT of work, especially with all those spammers hitting it every minute.
And now I am on 4G portable with no fixed IP...
Much better than cable or fiber, works everywhere,
For the media I have a satellite dish with more free to air stations then even fiber even can supply,
and more reliable too.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Sun, 29 Jan 2023 13:31:24 +0100) it happened \"Carlos E.R.\"
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote in <sh5iajxsph.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>:

On 2023-01-29 06:13, boB wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 16:13:07 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:



My smart phone is used like a POTS telephone (no texting, no email, no
games, no music) but it has a wonderful camera.

And the HP calculator emulator is handy sometimes.

Thanks guys. Free is good too.

I wonder if I could set up my own small NNTP server and pick up groups
? I have no idea how usenet works in that way.

If you are on Linux it is very easy to setup an nntp proxy server
(Leafnode).

Long time ago I had the webserver and ftp server running at home,
doing that needs a fixed IP address.

You can do it over dynamic DNS too.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 11:32:46 PM UTC+11, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2023-01-29 12:33, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:51:35 AM UTC+11, Joe Gwinn wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 14:17:35 -0800 (PST), Dean Hoffman <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:35:41 PM UTC-6, boB wrote:
Looks like my USENET server (Newscene) is going out of business soon.

Who do you like ? Besides Google Groups if that still even really
works.

Thanks,
boB

Google groups still works. Most of the groups I frequented in the past have just died out. No one has anything to say even if it\'s about weather. I used AIOE with Thunderbird as the reader in the past.

Google got a bit too grasping, and so Google Groups were mostly
abandoned. Most people went to groups.io.

Google groups works fine for me. As far as I know I don\'t pay anything to use the service.

I find it the easiest user interface to work with. You have to rely on the header information to find out where you are in the thread and some posters snip that - I check on eternal september if I feel the need to know (which doesn\'t happen often).

Notice that there are users that filter out any post coming from Google Groups.

Not Flyguy.,unfortunately.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[boB]

On Sun, 29 Jan 2023 19:50:08 -0500, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Sun, 29 Jan 2023 13:31:24 +0100) it happened \"Carlos E.R.\"
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote in <sh5iajxsph.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>:

On 2023-01-29 06:13, boB wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 16:13:07 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:



My smart phone is used like a POTS telephone (no texting, no email, no
games, no music) but it has a wonderful camera.

And the HP calculator emulator is handy sometimes.

Thanks guys. Free is good too.

I wonder if I could set up my own small NNTP server and pick up groups
? I have no idea how usenet works in that way.

If you are on Linux it is very easy to setup an nntp proxy server
(Leafnode).

Long time ago I had the webserver and ftp server running at home,
doing that needs a fixed IP address.

You can do it over dynamic DNS too.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

All very interesting !

boB